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> it's about the European corporations moving off Azure to some other cloud solution offered by European corporations (do we even have any?).

Scaleway and OVH? Although I’m not sure how they compare at scale to AWS / Azure / GCP.


> Age isn't an issue when all parties are adults.

I wouldn’t fully agree. All parties being adults doesn’t inherently remove the advantage very large age and experience gaps can give to one party over the other, especially when one is barely adult. 18 or 21 is just an arbitrary number, and one doesn’t suddenly become smart about these things just because the law says they are now legally full citizens, responsible for their acts and for themselves.

But I also agree it doesn’t make age gaps between adults inherently negative. It’s just… complicated.


Can we raise the age of adulthood from 18 to whatever acceptable age ends this discourse once and for all?

Probably not, because there's inevitably a transition period.

Sure, raise it past the transition period.

I’m tired of the pearl clutchers. Decide an age you’ll actually accept. That’s an adult. No more infantilization.


You're not understanding my argument. Within the current way we do things, whatever age you pick is the age the transition period starts for a big fraction of people. Just picking a higher age doesn't work.

If anything, based on the median in the US right now, we should be introducing more self-determination earlier.


> Within the current way we do things, whatever age you pick is the age the transition period starts for a big fraction of people.

My point precisely. Many people only start experiencing life as adults once they’ve been declared adults. Which kind of makes sense.

Maybe something more progressive than a random date would be better. Some countries already do it for some things (both in rights, responsibilities, and legal consequences), many also have specific framework for people who simply can’t be held responsible for themselves (with, often, abuses).

But it’s what we have.


Nothing to do with infantilizing anyone.

I’m probably stating the obvious, but some things are complex and don’t have good universal solutions. Which is part of why we have judges and lawyers, not just laws.


Not without impacting other political aspects. Remember we only lowered the voting age to 18 some 50 years ago to justify the ability to send more kids to a war we started. And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

It still strikes me that some places consider someone fully able to freely consent to enrol in the army, to the risk of getting permanently maimed or mentally scarred, and consider them fit to make life or death split-second decisions for both themselves and everyone around them under terror In highly stressful situations.

But can’t be allowed to have a beer or a whisky, and isn’t able to freely consent to sleep with someone five or ten years older.

I wonder what the official legal justification for this dichotomy is, if there is any.

Edit: after looking it up, there doesn’t seem to be one.


We seem perfectly fine splitting up some aspects of adulthood, like 21 for drinking.

There's some issues with someone that has very little experience being an adult. Once they have a couple years out of school and a couple years of being able to drink (if relevant), it's basically all the same.

With how fast the world is moving (especially in non-US, recently-ish westernized countries that had a lot of catching up to do over the last twenty-forty years, think former eastern bloc), things aren't so clear-cut.

There's a difference between a person who grew up watching video cassettes on their neighbor's VCR, and a person who (barely) watched recaps over 1MB/s DSL. Two completely different childhoods, two completely different cultural experiences, less than 15 years of age difference, both people have had "a couple years out of school and a couple years of being able to drink."

It's not unworkable, but it's quite like a relationship with somebody from a far-away foreign country, maybe without the language barrier.


Sure there's a difference in the kind of things they're used to, but it's not giving anyone an advantage which is what the earlier posts were about. Maybe a small advantage to the younger one which is the opposite of the worry above.

I’ve been thinking about using LLMs as a sort of proxy, for both dial-up and bad phone networks.

Theoretically, such a service could allow you to "browse" even via SMS.

I mean, it’s a bit ridiculous to have to resort to that, but the situation itself is ridiculous.


My favourite so far was Claude "fixing" deployment checks with `continue-on-error: true`

Our sales and marketing have started making their own tools for themselves. This week. They actually launched a terminal.

They hit a wall with deployment, for now, but it’s amusing to watch.

And since I wouldn’t trust their stuff (or Claude’s) with a 10-mile long stick I strongly suggested we put it on Cloudflare behind eight layers of Access / Zero Trust. Easy deployment, and "solves" (if we can call it that) many of the security issues (or not; maybe I’m wrong).


> What value is left to provide for users?

Everything and anything people actually want or need, whether it’s every day or just for five minutes, that nobody else could be bothered to make.

Today most won’t know what to do with it, just like they didn’t know what to do with a web browser.

But that won’t last.


Iterative multi-agent and multi-model processes are fun.

Why would the synthesis round get expensive than the regular rounds?

> and quickly realized throwing 5 mediocre models at a problem just makes them argue in circle.

What was your selection strategy? My current issue is more that the more models I add, the less likely any specific one is to win two rounds in a row. Which would make perfect sense no matter the model quality, no? Unless there’s a huge gap.

> For brainstorm mode maybe weight models by past accuracy instead of pure voting?

By adding outputs history and a way to track the actual outcomes?


More than that. Building a throwaway-transient-single-use web app for a single annoying use kind of makes sense now, sometimes.

I had to create a bunch of GitHub and Linear apps. Without me even asking Codex whipped up a web page and a local server to set them up, collecting the OAuth credentials, and forward them to the actual app.

Took two minutes, I used it to set up the apps in three clicks each, and then just deleted the thing.

Code as transient disposable artifacts.


I posted it recently, but now this works differently https://xkcd.com/1205/

You can get a throw away app in 5 mins, before I wouldn't even bother.


This. So much. Nobody cares whether it’s AI or goblins under the hood. Just like nobody cares about how smartphones or the internet work. The only thing that matters to the majority of user is what it does for (or to) them.

Apple’s marketing was (is?) textbook this.

Also, I’d bet most people building with LLMs don’t care, or even know about, PyPI.


People just don’t learn do they?

It’s truly amazing. This is why I’m not surprised people are ‘blown away’ by llm’s. They were never truly intrinsically intelligent - they were expert regurgitators of knowledge on demand.

Steve already suffered from immense scar tissue of starting with the technology. And yet.. this wisdom blows over peoples minds. More fool them.


> Steve already suffered from immense scar tissue of starting with the technology.

Funny. I just stumbled upon that specific OpenDoc video today.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oeqPrUmVz-o


That’s exactly what I was referencing :)

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