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ganeumann
on Aug 20, 2014
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GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveilla...
I think it's already illegal.
jonstewart
on Aug 21, 2014
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Each country probably had the others do the dirty work in their own country, a legal loophole.
kordless
on Aug 21, 2014
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I think they don't care if it's illegal. They believe their actions are justified. The primary problem with that assumption is that they are the ones that justify it.
alex_duf
on Aug 20, 2014
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Agreed, it's just that there's no tribunal to bring the case to.
hadoukenio
on Aug 21, 2014
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So does it set a precedent that the humble citizen is able to do it without legal ramifications?
deciplex
on Aug 21, 2014
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In a sense, yes. There will be ramifications, of course, but they are entirely extralegal.
It's best not to think of the Five Eyes as being nations of laws.
joe_the_user
on Aug 21, 2014
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Seeing this intelligent if pessimistic post downvoted without comment makes me sad for Hacker's News.
shitgoose
on Aug 21, 2014
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Illegal they do right away. Unconstitutional takes a bit longer.
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