Blacks and Hispanics suffer disproportionately, when it comes to sentences and everything else, even adjusted for economic status. I'm sorry pointing out that fact pisses some people off. But why the heck do that think blacks are disproportionately poor to begin with, if not for reasons having to do with their race? Its not like we didn't just get done with a couple of centuries of race based slavery and oppression. But no, the attitudes that animated that oppression have simply vanished within my parents lifetime![1] Sociological evolution happening in a historical blink of the eye.
Again, I'm not bringing it up randomly. What drives sentences? Fear. You think fear has nothing to do with race? That's utterly naive. Nobody who has even the barest experience with the criminal justice system can come away without the feeling that racial issues pervade how it works.
[1] Even less. Sentence inflation in the US started in the 70s and 80s, just a decade after George Wallace proclaimed "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!" Sentence inflation happened in the aftermath of desegregation, race riots, and white flight. Even if people are much more open minded today, the legal structures and policing apparatus we still have today were forged then.
Honey, you're bullshitting us and yourself. You're telling me when Black Africans where discovered a few hundred years ago they were a few years away from inventing the Micro-chip and the Space Shuttle until the evil white man oppressed them?
Jews were smarter, owned more businesses, & had higher IQ scores than whites before, during, and after the holocaust. Blacks on the other hand were behind since the day they were discovered, throughout their oppression, and still to this day have low IQ scores from before kindergarden and into their adulthood. Racism doesn't destroy you, it's just a push. If you can't get back up on your feet that's your fault.
Also Blacks and Hispanics have much higher rates of: crime, teen pregnancy, high school dropouts, low test scores, & broken families.
- Having kids with the dumbest hood rat kinda man you could find is their problem.
- 1 out of 3 black kids dropping out of high school is their problem.
- Almost 80% of blacks not having a father is their problem.
- Over 50% of black women having children with multiple men is their problem.
- Telling each other they don't act black enough is their problem.
- Having a massively high crime rate regardless of wealth or education is their problem.
- Having low impulse control and being hyper-sexual and having a shitty family is their problem.
I find it fascinating how Whites, Jews, Asians, Indians, Middle Easterners, & Native Americans who are in poverty don't have those problems.
Here's a New York Times article on the black/white test score gap. "AFRICAN AMERICANS currently score lower than European Americans on vocabulary, reading, and mathematics tests, as well as on tests that claim to measure scholastic aptitude and intelligence. This gap appears before children enter kindergarten (figure 1-1), and it persists into adulthood. It has narrowed since 1970, but the typical American black still scores below 75 percent of American whites on most standardized tests. On some tests the typical American black scores below more than 85 percent of whites"
You want peoples who were running around naked on the African Savanna and Central American just 400 years ago to have the same achievement and equality and job as Indians, Whites, Jews, Arabs, and Asians who grew up in a society with schools, education, a written language for thousands of years. That's not exactly how evolution and natural selection work. No one is saying that racism doesn't hold people back, but it only holds them back temporarily. Racism and wars and even holocausts don't destroy the group as a whole. Everyone is responsible for themselves, not sitting around begging for table scraps and ranting about how racism is the reason they're behind.
This is perhaps the most profoundly racist thing I have ever encountered on this forum. Your "statistics" lack any verifiable sources and contain so many straw men it is difficult to account for all of them.
I honestly cannot believe that I am responding to this...
Get your lazy ass over to Google and stop expecting everything to be handed to you for inspection. You mean you never read black blogs? You never venture out of your own ass to see other view points?
In Atlanta, African-Americans are 54 percent of the population, but are responsible for 100 percent of homicide, 95 percent of rape, 94 percent of robbery, 84 percent of aggravated assault, and 93 percent of burglary: Atlanta Police Department Uniform Crime Reports, Apr 2011 to Apr 2012 (1 year of full data): http://www.atlantapd.org/uniformcrimereports.aspx (yes Blacks were responsible for 100% of the homicides, not even 99% but 100%)
What else do you need honey? What other form of proof do I need to run out and get for you while you sit in your chair criticizing reality because it doesn't match the fantasy in your head? Did all the movies of slavery warp your mind into thinking blacks are pristine angles who have no flaws while the evil white devil is guilty for everything?
Blacks cannot advance if people like keep holding them to low expectations, low standards, excuse them out of responsibility, and keep telling them they're victims. You claim to stand against racism yet people like you with your head in the clouds are the ones who are indirectly helping it continue.
From the actual study which forms the basis of your "59% of black women have multiple baby daddies" assertion:
> Taken together, the findings from Figures 1.2 - 1.4 suggest that multiple partner fertility is intimately connected with various forms of social disadvantage and discrimination, distinctions in cultural practices and kinship ties, and access to resources. And, many of these differences (particularly monetary ones) may lead to chronic stressors that represent serious long-term and cumulative hardships for MPF women relative to other women.
The majority of the remainder of your sources are news-magazine or tabloid puff-pieces that regurgitate information sourced from God-knows-where. Just because somebody said it once on a website does not mean that the information is accurate or has undergone proper scrutiny. Finally, your Breitbart article suffers from the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy, which means that just because someone important said something does not make it true.
All of that said, none of this is likely to change your viewpoints because I suspect that you have long-since cemented your positions, but I feel the need to stand up and say something because this is the sort of insidious racism that keeps us from moving forward.
Additionally, I would really like to know your name so I can avoid doing business with you.
I love how you ignored the Atlanta crime rate one that proves my point using hard data. Other cities all over the US have the same problems. Blacks make up a tiny percent of the population and yet a huge percent of criminals. And they have this magic touch wherever they go. From the USA, to the UK, to Europe, even in their own homeland of Africa.
Meanwhile Native Americans, who are truly victims, even greater minorities, aren't pushed into every single commercial, don't have their own history month, barbie, or tv channel, don't seem to sleep with everything that moves and cause so much trouble.
Even when the president and first lady talk about the real problems facing blacks, you spew more of your excuses. How come other minorities like Native Americans (who are also socially disadvantaged) don't have the same problems with regard to multiple baby daddies.
My sources were black blogs that simply regurgitated the information and talked about it. And yet you don't like what they found. Maybe white people should start excusing themselves for every wrong they've ever committed.
You're just an endless victim aren't you? Endless excuses. It's always someone else's fault. 500 years from now when Blacks are still behind folks like you will still be out preaching "it's not our fault, we're victims". 5,000 years from now you'll still be victims, unable to get back up. Despite all the hard ships other races went through they got back up. Europe was decimated numerous times by wars, famine, plagues, 2 world wars, and still it recovered. Jews were expelled and prayed upon for 2,000 years and went through a holocaust and a massive exodus from Europe and still got back up. While blacks were found, enslaved, and freed in a few hundred years and can't get back up on their own 2 feet.
You're right, blacks need help. They need all the help in the world. Blacks need other races to help them because they can't seem get up on their own.
Again, I'm not bringing it up randomly. What drives sentences? Fear. You think fear has nothing to do with race? That's utterly naive. Nobody who has even the barest experience with the criminal justice system can come away without the feeling that racial issues pervade how it works.
[1] Even less. Sentence inflation in the US started in the 70s and 80s, just a decade after George Wallace proclaimed "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!" Sentence inflation happened in the aftermath of desegregation, race riots, and white flight. Even if people are much more open minded today, the legal structures and policing apparatus we still have today were forged then.