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Whatever happened to Viaweb?


It became Yahoo! Stores.


And what happened to that?


It remains one of the largest hosts of online stores in the world, powering more of the top 500 internet retailers than any other hosted store platform.


Obvious next question is exactly how many of the top 500 internet retailers use a hosted store platform...


Not many :)


I did not know that. Cool. Thought Yahoo stores had somehow gone away.


As pg once joked, Yahoo Stores still hosts pg's blog. (I presume that by that, Paul is referring to his paulgraham.com site, but I may be mistaken about which site he had in mind.)



Yes, it's paulgraham.com. For a long time, it even had the Yahoo favicon.



It was renamed and became the basis of Yahoo! Store.


It was also completely rewritten. It kind of boggles the mind. They didn't keep any of the branding or any of the code. What exactly did they buy? Users?


I rewrote some parts for scalability in the first couple years after the acquisition, and a lot was changed after I left. But I believe a lot of it is still there 15 years later. Perhaps a current maintainer could elaborate?

Many codebases end up pretty different after 15 years. It doesn't mean the original codebase wasn't a useful starting point. It's lower risk to adapt and improve based on customer feedback than figure out, "what should a build-your-own e-commerce tool do?" in the first place.


Thanks for that, the little I had read about it gave me a much different impression of a complete rewrite to move away from lisp.


What language was your re-write done in?


Again, there was no complete re-write. It remained a mix of Lisp, Perl5 and C++.


Cool, thanks for answering. I wonder how many languages Yahoo currently uses. Given how many acquisitions they have done over the years.


Who devised RTML?


pg.


Paying users. That's something very valuable. The fact that is still running says a lot about the product.


That's exactly what they bought. These days you can clone a lot of sites that exist out there (HN or reddit are great examples) but you wont get anywhere without the community




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