Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

A lot of new businesses are going the Notion/Google Drive route for docs, tables and knowledge, plus Canva for presentations and more visual work. It's not the majority, but the market is there.
 help



That might be true for tech startups, but many businesses (even "new" ones) go with Microsoft 365 as a default, especially outside of the west coast or NYC.

Europe here. I disagree. Many SMEs are totally happy with Google Workspace and Canva, as GP mentioned. I know people using just that. And they don't understand why there are people suffering from the Microsoft-Stockholm syndrome.

The market may not yet be 365-sized but as GP mentioned: it's there.

And there are young people arriving at an age to open a business who have never used a Windows computer in their entire life. To them Microsoft is the company that make the virus-infested, slow, computers full of ads they see at their grandparents' house. That cohort ain't buying Windows / buying Office / using Azure.


Exactly. 365 gets you perfect compatibility and the 'real tools that professionals use'. Not Google Docs or some weird Apple thing - the tools that always will read the document.

Google docs actually has better MS Office compatibility than the 365 Web Apps.

If you can navigate the terrible UI enough to find the open button on the proper 'ribbon', that is. The ribbon makeover should have textbooks written about it so we can teach our future UI designers not to make the same mistakes again.

Meh. Techies keep ranting about it but regular users are just fine with it.

As someone 'technical' who sat close to 'normies' who hated the helpdesk guys so much they would interrupt me with their problems, no they do not.

I don't see why the ribbon would be inherently worse than a menu. It's still hierarchical, everything is labeled and has an icon and it's bigger. Oh, and everything has a shortcut that's highlighted...

I’m talking about the context I know which is Barcelona companies

Plus Pages, Numbers and Keynote are free on Macs, minus the new paid features. I think it's a no brainer for new businesses

Unfortunately, there's a reason people prefer paid office software over Apple's free suite. Apps like Numbers are chaotic in the face of Excel.



Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: