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Anthropic should never have gotten into bed with the military or intelligence services to begin with. They wanted to make a deal with the devil and dictate the terms, that is the problem. If they had stayed out this wouldn’t be happening. Yes, someone else will probably step in and do all the evil you have just refused to do, but that isn’t a reason to instead decide to do it personally.

Note that I give them a lot of credit for trying to stop and to have their own red lines about the use of their technology, and to stick to those red lines to the end.



According to legend the devil adheres precisely to the terms of the contacts he signs; it's usually the foolhardy peasant who didn't notice the fine print.


Very useful if you run into him in Georgia or if you want to get his tooth to make a guitar pick.


I think i'm gonna need an explanation for that sentence


“The Devil Went Down to Georgia” by Charlie Daniels


Other reference was Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny.


The military is perhaps the biggest possible customer around. They do plenty of things that aren't blowing people up. It's not bad to help with non combat tasks.


Yeah, but aren’t all of those things in service of “blowing people up”?


National defense is important, just ask Europe post Ukraine war.

People taking a good idea and extending it to do bad does harm twice: in the bad act itself and in making a good thing seem bad.

I am strongly against US starting wars and as you say blowing people up.

I am also strongly against the US being defenseless in the case of a national emergency.


Blowing people up is sometimes morally correct. Defending yourself against attack is very nearly always so.


I was sympathetic to this line of reasoning but I feel it's repeatedly shown to be self-defeating.

What chance have the proverbial good-guys got if, even after _proving_ some modicum of good will, people will nonetheless condescend any attempt to influence bad/wildcard actors? It feels great to tell someone they 'should've known better' but I'm convinced that that's basically void of cautionary utility.


I've commented this in a different thread, but pretty sure something very similar would've happened in they refused to "get into bed with the military or intelligence services to begin with".

It's damned if you do and damned if you don't — lose-lose scenario either way.




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