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> but that t-shirt looks to me like it's referencing the classic Run DMC logo

D'oh! I didn't know that! My apologies to the guys from Run DMC :) You are also right that there have been lots of different variations. It seems like only recently it has been co-opted by German neonazis, see for example https://www.derwesten.de/politik/wie-dortmunder-neonazis-das.... That article is from 2016 and the suckless conference pictures are from 2017. (Side note: the logo happens to use the colors of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskriegsflagge, which might be another reason why it became popular with neonazis.)

Look, if it were only the t-shirts, I would give them the benefit of the doubt. Same for torchlit hikes, which are a German and Austrian tradition. But these pictures on the suckless website raise a few eyebrows, even if you don't know about the other stuff.

> when there are (or seem to be) more parsimonious explanations for the signals you present.

Unfortunately, that's the nature of dog whistles. There is plausible deniability for individual actions, but they paint a (more or less) clear picture when put into a broader context.

I'm not sure even what would be the more parsimonious explanation for naming your e-mail server "Wolfsschanze" or throwing around terms like "cultural marxism".

Oh, and then there is this lovely e-mail thread: https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyn...

> And WW2 was forced upon Germany, and the allied rejected all the numerous peace offerings from the German side.

That's some really hardcore revisionist shit.



I don't want to put myself in the position of advocating for anyone here, but I would like to respond to the point about providing alternative explanations.

I have no idea why someone would name their server "Wolfsschanze", if it was something more ambiguous like "Wolfpack" I could understand. I've named servers silly things in my time, but even then it's something short and simple, like "foo box", I've never been tempted to call one "Vergeltungswaffe" for example. But I admit that there may be a reasonable explanation of which I am not aware.

As for the revisionism, I think it's fair to say that the allies rejected some peace offerings from Germany. What's not true is the implication that this can be used to shift blame, since the peace offers were either unreasonable or untrustworthy (see e.g. Hess's flight to the UK). That the Germans were forced into war is something that I have never heard credible support for (unless you believe in "shrinking markets"), but this may simply be an error on the part of the writer, rather than part of a cohesive and harmful worldview.

Adding up these possible indications of Nazi sympathies does change my Bayesian beliefs, but (perhaps from an excess of intellectual humility) I'm still far below the threshold to confidently make an accusation.


> I have no idea why someone would name their server "Wolfsschanze"

Maybe because they are a nazi and/or an edgelord? Are we looking for the most charitable interpretation or the most likely?

> but this may simply be an error on the part of the writer, rather than part of a cohesive and harmful worldview.

Have you read the whole message? The worldview seems pretty cohesive to me. As a German you simply don't make such "errors" about WW2.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes you just need to call a spade a spade.




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