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> I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones

Not exactly the same, but makes me reminisce the days of the iPod nano. It offered FM radio using the headphone cables as an antenna. I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since, which is a shame because I’d really like to get local stations on my phone.



FM radio using headphones/headset as antenna is a common feature in phones. I've seen it on feature phones in 200x, and on some Androids as well. Only you can decide if it's important enough to outweigh other must have features though. There are also lots of apps to stream local radio if you have a consistent data connection (doesn't need to be fast, though)


The FM receiver is (or is claimed to be) better for battery life than using data to listen to local radio.


...and certainly better for your data plan.


IIRC, USA pushed for some time for inclusion of radio receiver as mandatory, while GP mentions the need to support DAB if selling to France, resulting in weird situation where it might be software "fuse" involved.


As others have said it's very common. You can even filter phones on GSMArena by it, looks like there's 6000+ in their database, including recent releases: https://m.gsmarena.com/results.php3?chkFMradio=selected


Here in the EU, it tends to be disabled in software even if the hardware has it.

I blame the French. They introduced a law that forbids radio receivers that don't support DAB radio, as a way to make the newer DAB format take off. But globally, DAB never did so phone hardware don't have it. In the EU, distribution chains often cross borders and it would be too bothersome to have models with special firmware just for France — so instead, nobody gets FM-radio.


My Xiamoi Redmi Note 8 Pro that I bought from Orange (french telephone provider) here in France in 2020 definitely is currently receiving FM Radio (uses the headphones for reception) and it is even documented on their site https://assistance.orange.fr/mobile-tablette/tous-les-mobile...


It's a very recent law introduced because until recently, virtually no radio supported DAB.

I bought last year a DAB compatible radio for my car, only to realise that it is worse than FM :)


I think some (most?) of the Moto G line still support FM radio this way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/u2dvvp/any_current_m...



> It offered FM radio using the headphone cables as an antenna.

That was common on phones in general. Headphones acted as antenna.

If you open the FM radio app without connecting wired headphones, it'll ask you to connect it.

This was common in Android phones as well.

My current Android phone does not have headphone jack. And I can't use FM radio (although there are services that play radio over the internet, but that isn't really the same...).

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About phones which have the capability but which are disabled, I wonder if it's because of security implications.

Where I live, the allowed frequencies were from 87 MHz to 108 MHz or something. Consumer FM radios could only be tuned in this range.

That's because on frequencies outside this range, other transmissions — for example, police transmissions — might be taking place.

The aforementioned allowed range is different in different countries.

Also, in my country long long ago (like, ≈50 years ago) you needed to get the permission of the government (via a license or something) to get a radio. You couldn't just go to a store and buy one. That changed later, however.

Now that I think about it, it might have something to do with semi-secret transmissions happening on frequencies outside the allowed range.

A friend told me it's possible to take apart the radio and tune to non-standard frequencies because in most radios the "dial" to select the allowed range really works by physically jamming the dial with another block. If you remove that block, you could keep turning that dial. Haven't tried this myself, so take that with a pinch of salt.


> I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since,

I had that come with a cheap motorola phone (3 years ago or so)

https://www.motorola-support.com/uk-en/?page=topic/applicati...

So not ubiquitous but not that rare either.


Most phone chipsets actually implement this functionality. However the carriers tend not to approve its enablement.


I know you have a bunch of responses already but I got to say this, every single phone (dumb and smart) that I've used or seen used by my immediate family and friends has had this feature, I'm more susprised by the implication that there are phones that don't!


I actually just built a $4 FM receiver kit that uses the headphones for the antenna.

It was very common in previous decades because it was cheaper and allowed more room in the device (the alternative was the metal “pull to extend” antennas).


A surprising number of phones have that feature but it's often disabled in software (especially in North America). Sometimes you can force enable it.


I had an android phone about 5 years ago that could pick up over-the-air video broadcasts using the headphones as the antenna.


My mom's cheap new flip phone has this feature, so they're still shipping it on new devices.




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