I agree. I see technologies like Next, Remix, etc claiming to be full stack, but it doesn't "feel" full stack to me. They have offerings like backend functions, which is really just an HTTP response.

But, when I think of a "all in one" / "full stack" langauge, there needs to be an existing ORM inside the framework. That works across the View/Communication/Model.

These frameworks have you needing other tools to do this.