I could only stand Bubble for a day or two before it became too restrictive and yet complex for doing very basic stuff. Buffer suffers from the same issues as other no-code solutions but also has a subpar UI.
Yeah I agree, there's lots of bloat as well, that's why I said that the transition of bubble tinkerers to actual coding with any high level languages and frameworks would be very liberating. Even a beginner could do a heck lot in something like RoR or Django, without even mastering the respective languages.