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I'm simply pointing out that there are people that despise the West, and it's bad enough that we have to take it from them...we shouldn't have to take it from our own people too.

Despise is perhaps too strong a word, particularly in regards to "our own people". But regardless, what if there are very good reasons to despise the West? Everything the West does is not ok simply because you and I live in it. A good portion of the enemies you're referring to have very valid grievances with the West. That their tactics for dealing with those grievances are not my tactics (or Wikileaks tactics) does not in any way deter from the validity of their grievances (or mine).



I disagree. I think this quote puts it in perspective:

“Hatred is self-punishment. Hatred it the coward's revenge for being intimidated.”

I didn't say we were perfect, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.


I disagree.

With what? That there can be valid grievances with Western policies? That anyone could have a valid reason for hatred?

If you killed my brother, I'd have a significant feeling of hatred towards you. You can call me a coward all you want, but my feeling would be 100% valid. Now apply that principle to the tens and hundreds of thousands of families that have had Western gov'ts kill their civilian family members (as collateral damage). Those Western gov'ts may have reasons they consider good for having killed those civilians (or causing the deaths, however you want to think about it), but you cannot expect the surviving families are going to nod their heads and say "OK, I guess it had to be that way".

I think this quote puts it in perspective: “Hatred is self-punishment. Hatred it the coward's revenge for being intimidated.”

It doesn't, really.

let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

... and an apple a day keeps the doctor away? "Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love." The truth is staring you in the face.




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