That really depends on the type of the app and the target device. BTW "the web" is native on Firefox OS.

I really don't buy the "web is native on Firefox OS" argument that you and others make.

Architecturally, it's really no different than a PhoneGap or web app running on Android, iOS or BlackBerry OS. They all involve an "app" typically written with HTML+JavaScript, executed in a web browser (often full-screen and without chrome), which in turn runs on an operating system of some sort.

If it's "native" on Firefox OS, then why isn't it just as "native" on Android, or iOS, or BlackBerry OS, or other mobile OSes?

What I think we really see is Firefox OS totally lacking any sort of real native software development support. This creates the illusion that web apps are somehow "native", when this is just a result of there being no other viable option.

Web as native on Firefox OS is not an argument or an illusion. Seriously, no kidding, it's the entire point for the existence of Firefox OS.

There will never be access to run native binaries on a Firefox OS device. Web APIs are as close to bare metal that it will ever expose.

Seeing that as "totally lacking any sort of real native software development support" misses the whole purpose of the OS, because the web is native on Firefox OS.

you mean javascript is native on Firefox OS. Firefox OS api =/= web standards.

As far as I'm aware, the intent is to develop any non-standard Firefox OS API into a web standard API. Any API that starts out as non-standard on FxOS, starts that way so that it can be shaped to serve practical uses before it gets standardized.

Well for sure. But it does support vast majority of it.

We're writing beta and there API will get more useful

They use the same editor engine

The checkbox has been just added few days ago. Before it wasn't optional. Just written the doc http://doc.jsfiddle.net/basic/introduction.html#normalize-cs...

Docs are opensourced (https://github.com/jsfiddle/jsfiddle-docs-alpha)

Please file issues and requests https://github.com/jsfiddle/jsfiddle-docs-alpha/issues

We use different domain for displaying fiddles.

could you provide a link please?

You've got the page only after adding "show/" after the link with the demo - http://jsfiddle.net/wr8qE/show/ - just look at the source.

The goal is to actually see the code working and remove the repetitive hassle

It is loading the example by submitting a form. The submit goes to an iframe which is by definition a sandboxed environment

Weird - it should only happen if page is reloaded and no POST request is send.

What browser/OS etc.?

BTW thanks for info

Firefox 3.5.2 on Ubuntu 7.10

contact us on http://twitter.com/js_fiddle - working on mine on similar system