Microsoft slowly becoming the IBM of the 21st century.

Google/Android don't want AI bots spamming marketplaces with dodgy apps.

Tie in the app to a verified identity/individual and it makes the audit process easier as well as engagement with authorities from the user's country if required (e.g. app facilitating child abuse).

> e.g. app facilitating child abuse

I'm going to go on a limb and say that the amount of apps dedicated to facilitating child abuse is close to 0, and the popular apps from verified developers being used for child abuse is close to 100%.

Of course it’s the apps that checks notes facilitate child abuse.

But they don't have a problem with using unreliable AI bots to audit apps and deal with support.

But can it play doom?

It could probably run it and learn to play it too.

Open Source Software doesn't mean maintenance free.

The code is all there mate.

Their time and efforts and ongoing contributions to the project are not.

OSS is not about fairness and free work from people. It's just putting the code out there in public.

I thought the same though this comment clarifies it -> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47357608

Haha in the world of AI/MCPs, all of a sudden we have a push for companies to properly build out APIs/CLI tools.

I have always said that if we had done for developers what we are doing for agents the whole world would have been a much better place.

Perhaps we will finally emerge from this decades-long dark age of bloated, do-everything GUI development tools being the fashionable happy path.

The AWS cli tool wants to have a talk… hard to find a more bloated mess of strung together scripts held together by tape.

I think all the SDKs and the cli tool itself are mostly code generated.

Even if the AI bubble bursts hard, we'll still have all of the better tooling for us actual humans.

But saying "it's for AI" is a corporate life hack for you to get permission to build said better tooling... =)

One of the very few good things from the AI race has been everyone finally publishing more data APIs out in the open, and making their tools usable via CLIs (or extensible APIs).

I feel like the CLI craze started around 2020. That predates this chat GPT.

CharmCLI golang

Nushell rust

Warp. Shell

Were all around 2020 also that is when alt shells started getting popular probably for same reasons they still are.

About 90% of “make codebase better for LLMs” is just good old fashioned better engineering that is also good for humans.

They aren't doing that though. At least not yet. It's generated from the discovery tool, which amounts to the spec of the existing API. If they want a high powered CLI they need to dig into the servers behind Google Workspace like they have when they've improved the web apps.

But on the other hand a (possibly dark) pattern is emerging where companies are asking you to upgrade to a higher plan to access MCP.

I noted something similar a few weeks ago. Companies are finally putting APIs in front of things that should have had APIs for years!

yeah there's way more demand, and at the same time, it's way easier for the company to build and maintain (with the help of AI). Great to see!

Took them this long to realize MCPs are just worse APIs.

Same clowns complaining that `npm install` downloads the entire internet.

Now it's completely fine for an AI agent to do the same and blow up their context window.

Lol yes lets just casually plug into a 1.2MW charger and not take down the electricity of the nearby town while I charge my truck.

Nuclear trucks and boats are what I envision so maybe I'm the one who needs a reality check.

Around where I live, we have electric car ferries.

To avoid having to upgrade the grid massively, we use large battery banks shoreside which are being charged at a sustainable (to the grid) rate, then the ferry charges rapidly by depleting the battery bank, leaving the grid alone.

Works a charm.

Electrifying all transport in the nation would increase electricity load by 20%.

But even if 100% of all vehicles sold today was electric, it would still take ~20 years before almost 100% of vehicles on the road were electric. And it's not, so we're probably looking at > 30 years to increase electricity load by 20%.

That annual increase is far less than the increase caused by data centers. It's about the same as the annual increase in load caused by increased use of air conditioning.

This adds friction, disincentivizes legitimate and high quality code commits and uses humans even more.

The entire point is to add friction. Accepting code into public projects used to be highly frictive. RMS and Linus Torvalds weren't just accepting anyone's code when they developed GNU and Linux; and to even be considered, you had to submit patches in the right way to a mailing list. And you had to write the code yourself!

GitHub and LLMs have reduced the friction to the point where it's overwhelming human reviewers. Removing that friction would be nice if it didn't cause problems of its own. It turns out that friction had some useful benefits, and that's why you're seeing the pendulum swing the other way.

Yes, but no need for the attitude.

Linux powers the world in this area and bash is the glue which executes all these commands on servers.

Any program or language you write to try and 'revolutionise CI' and be this glue will ultimately make the child process call to a bash/sh terminal anyhow and you need to read both stdout and stderr and exit codes to figure out next steps.

Or you can just use bash.

>no need for the attitude

Why? We've spent years upon years upon years of building systems that enshittify processes. We've spent years losing talent in the industry and the trends aren't going to reverse. We are our own worst enemy, and are directly responsible for the state of the industry, and to an extent, the world.

To not call out bullshit where one sees it, is violence.