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Truly updates should be focused on fixing bugs, security and performance improvements NOT new features.

I'm still on 10. Basically don't care about the security risks. I will be forced to do something once new games won't work with 10.

Is this too high level for my 8th grade comp sci class?

I'm telling you guys if you think the powerful are gonna let us all continuing living after our value becomes obsolete you have a big surprise coming.


VCs furiously downvoting "quiet pleb!".


If I get past page 3 without seeing anything interesting I will generally try new.


Food and shelter?


The FBI is a good analogy for the political choices Americans have between Democrats and Republicans. They are completely non-ideological. It's just about power and control over the population. We need to get our rights back somehow.


I support this. The United States is too crowded. I don't want to compete with all these new people for housing. American citizens really need to begin advocating for themselves. For their material interests.


As a European, I also support this. Natives should not have to compete with all these new people for housing. Real Americans really need to begin advocating for themselves. For their material interests.

Come back where you belong.


Apparently you haven't travelled much in the US. Outside the major cities it can be pretty desolate.


I don't want every square inch of my country to be city; and if you look on google maps, most of the land in the US is already either used for farming, cities, or not suitable for either.


I don't think we're too crowded, but it definitely doesn't make sense in the era of AI and tech layoffs to continue the H1B/green card status quo.


Guess what? America's homebuilding is powered by immigrant workers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/immigration-crackdown-housin...


Ah, the argument, "who will clean our toilets and make our tacos?"


That's a reasonable opinion for one to have, but it can coexist with humane timeframes for changing laws over time. Not grandfathering people already here for a change in policy of this magnitude -- this is inhumane.


Also consider that these "new people" are assets to our economy. They're tax payers, many are highly educated, and their presence over the last hundred years is the exact reason you have the privilege of being in a wealthy country. Seriously, how do people think the US became what it is?

Will sending these people away improve our economy? Because I doubt it. I mean, we've been doing mass deportations right?

Well... has the economy improved for you? Has your life gotten better after we dumped a few tens of billions into ICE? Because I'm still waiting.

When will that chicken come home to roost, do you think? I'd like to know so I can make a note of it and inevitably tell you "I told you so" when that day rolls around.

Maybe it'll be around the same time we get those tax refund checks from all the money DOGE saved.


"They're tax payers, many are highly educated," yes they have more purchasing power the day they arrive than I do after 4 generations.

That's not right and toxic for social cohesion. Your immigrant class should not be wealthier or have superior earning power to the native population. That's like a sociological time bomb.


Good. I just wish more people would take down and destroy the red light/speeding cameras in NYC. Say no to the police state.


I'm on the treadmill so this may appear jumbled.

Bought PGA Tour 2k21 for $50. In October the servers shut down completely neutering the game. I think you're allowed to play a few courses still. But the career mode, which is why I originally bought the game, was completely turned off. Mind you that career mode had zero Internet needed features. It's like a sports franchise mode.

So good on this bill. 2K should rot for deprecating a game I bought for $50 only 5 years ago.


> I think you're allowed to play a few courses still. But the career mode, which is why I originally bought the game, was completely turned off. Mind you that career mode had zero Internet needed features.

I suspect this is the same as IO Interactive's "Hitman: World of Assassination".

99% of the game is single player. The game allows you to unlock additional things in the game (different starting locations in a level, more equipment).

But, if you play the game offline, all of that progression is completely blocked off.

I guess what happened is the progression ties to the saving, which is heavily coupled to online syncing. And so the logic is like `if (offline) { useSafeMode() }`. But it's so lame.


In some cases the online dependence is purely business decision to be able to sell you "micro" transactions.


Can any smart hackers crack this so I can play career mode again lol? Please?


I think the Peacock servers are what you're looking for. https://thepeacockproject.org/


But you knew exactly what you were buying. It’s not hidden to you that an internet connection is required when you buy the game. Game developers are generally pretty terrible and do a lot of really shady things to extract value from their players. But that one isn’t one. The terms are clearly stated before your purchase


I’d debate that there are “clearly stated terms” when the result is completely unpredictable, will it work for 10 years or 3 hours? Reading the terms you have no idea.

The original sin is selling a product that has an ongoing cost for a fixed price without creating an ongoing trust to pay those costs. Imagine I had a gas station that sold all you can use gasoline for a car for 4k. Then I sell a bunch of memberships and pay myself then go bankrupt. That’s straight up fraud.


I'll just play Civ 4 Beyond the Sword forever. Or whatever is available on the Internet archive.


Which is the sensible thing to do. There are a lot of local games available, if people don’t like online requirements just look at the rest of the massive catalog of games available


But for players to make such a decision in an informed manner they need to actually know the deal they are getting into with modern games and contrary to your original assertion it is far from clear now.


> Reading the terms you have no idea.

If a game says clearly a constant internet connection is required, I don’t see how you would expect it to work when their servers are down. It would indeed be nicer if they would provide a local experience, but is it really something that should be enforced through regulations? That feels very wrong to me. I personally dislike EA business model and wouldn’t engage with it, I think it’s a pretty shitty corporation. But when buying diablo games where a connection is required, even if I always only play them solo, at no point do I have expectations I will be able to continue playing if servers are shut down. The deal is clear from the get go, I can decide to engage or not. There a lots of other games to play if I care more about local experience.

The arguments to “stop killing games” feel very entitled to me and the slogans disingenuous


You could frame the regulation in a variety of ways:

1. Require a clear labeling of sunset date.

Or

2. Require an independent trust created from a portion of the initial payment to fund ongoing operation.

Or

3. Ban fixed payments for things with ongoing known operating costs.

Or

4. Provide local mechanisms to continue to run the game.

The original sin is a fixed price for an ongoing expense as a business model.


If the TOS said the game would be destroyed in 5 years I would not have made the purchase. You're making my point. Why didn't the TOS tell me the plan?


Because that’s not at all what terms of services are about, there is no expectation of providing a public roadmap


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